Carry your damn gun, people!

Via Uncle, a story on why it’s important to carry your gun.

 

Mrs. Maughan kills both of the attacking dogs and it turns out her dog is expected to recover. Good job and nice shooting there**. But her son takes the story to a scary place:

Brian Maughan said the event made him think about how vulnerable children or older adults would be to a similar attack.

“What if it had been a human being?” he said. “That’s just what was really scary about it.”

Mrs. Maughan is 60 so if the other older adults in that neighborhood are like her, then they be bad! But there is no reason it couldn’t have been a small child instead of her dog that was attacked. And if it had been Mrs. Maughan grandson being mauled by these feral dogs, she would still have had to go back home and retrieve her gun. Fate isn’t going to hit the pause button because you weren’t ready and need a time-out.

 

 

Tom Givens has had nearly 60 students involved in self-defense situations. Only 2 died, because they weren’t carrying their guns (I believe they had to disarm themselves due to legal reasons). Those that carried their guns lived.

The reason you carry your gun is because you need it, right fucking now. If attacks happen that sudden, if they go from 0 to ugly in no time, if so much damage can be done within seconds… do you really have time to go fetch a better tool from the house or the car or wherever it might be stored? No! You need it immediately. Really, the only place you can have it is immediately on your person, ready to go.

To borrow from Tom: Carry your damn gun, people!

 

8 thoughts on “Carry your damn gun, people!

  1. It’s hard to know what to say about this one, as the UK has one of the lowest gun homicide rates in the world and our police do not routinely carry guns, other than it is a contentious issue, and scary as well.

    For my part it is asking for trouble, we’ve enough idiots causing mayhem here without making guns more available, and sure, if you were to find yourself in a spot of bother with one of these idiots and had a gun yourself you could shoot them, but more likely they will have less scruples about shooting you first, and before we knew it we’d have a cycle of violence far more heinous than what we have now – and that’s saying something!

    Obviously it’s very different over the pond and it is perhaps an unfortunate necessity for some as guns are more readily available and common in the hands of vile reprobates. Still, for all that we do have occassional shootings and feral dogs on these shores, I’d would personally prefer to keep guns off our streets and just deal with the cards of fate as they come – less guns has to mean less shootings.

    There, that begins the debate…lol

    • UK may have a low gun homicide rate, but shall we look at knives? How about overall violent crime rates? I think that’s more significant to look at. It’s not so much about the implement, more about the person. And the fact the police do not routinely carry guns but yet have them speaks that they grant there is a time and a place for them.

      The data is out there. More guns does NOT mean more violent crime; in fact, more guns means less. The reason is, when good people are able to stand on equal (or higher) ground than the bad guys, the bad guys tend to think twice about their actions. If bad guys know they can have the upper hand, if the prey is easy, they’ll go for it.

      We are going to have idiots no matter what you do. Take a gun away from them, they’ll pick up a knife. Take the knife away, they’ll pick up a stick. Take the stick away, they’ll use their bare hands. Crazy people, stupid people, we can’t ban them out of existence.

      But when good people, which I believe is the vast majority of the world, have to deal with these people, what are we going to do? Are we going to cripple and abridge good people? Bad guys, by definition, aren’t going to obey they law… they won’t be deterred by what deters good and reasonable people. We cannot apply our standards of behavior and hope for the best when our lives are at their mercy. I respect that guns are not for everyone, and concealed carry is not for everyone either. However, I don’t believe it’s right to put good people at the mercy of bad people. And if you’re a good person, a person that understands only you are responsible for your success, failure, well-being, and safety in life, then hopefully you’re willing to do what it takes… and that’s not just in staying safe but every aspect of life.

      Years ago I was not a gun person. I don’t believe I was ever out to ban guns, but certainly felt they were not for me, didn’t want them in my house, didn’t even want my kids playing with toys or making a gun-shape with their fingers. Obviously I changed my stance. If you go back to the very beginning of my blog, you can read about my change:

      https://blog.hsoi.com/2009/02/04/why-im-now-a-gun-owner-part-1/

      It’s a 4-parter, and it’s long. But a life-change like this isn’t something you can sum up in a couple sentences. 🙂

  2. Well, that’s true, we can’t ban crazy people out of existence, and I would say violent crime rates are most certainly high in the UK, so the question might be Are we raising the stakes by carrying guns?

    I know your going to pick holes in my reasoning here, but if guns are a deterrent, and I see a crime occurring and my blood is up and I’m moving to stop it, and I don’t have a gun, well, like you say, I can’t dodge a bullet, can I?

    Still, I’ve had a skim of your “gun owner” piece and I must say it is cogent and honest; it’s certainly made me rethink my stance on this matter. Hands up: where I come from there’s not much chance of someone pulling a knife on you, never mind a gun, so I guess it’s hard for me to get my head around the need for carrying one. Some empty hand skills should surely suffice!

    I guess you’ve won the debate, short though it was!

    • Well, I’m not out to win a debate. More that I’m willing to present my case. If you find it reasonable, you do. If you don’t, you don’t.

      Are we raising the stakes by carrying guns? I’d say the stakes are already high. The bad guys are always going to have guns, or if not guns, whatever is the most available tools to give them the advantage… say we invent something better than guns, they’ll just adopt those… bad guys will always seek the advantage. So why should us good guys be at a disadvantage? How does that make for a better society when the bad people have the upper hand?

      No, you can’t dodge a bullet, which is why you have to ask yourself: is it worth dying for? If I saw my wife being attacked, it doesn’t matter if I have a gun, a stick, or bare hands… I’m going to dive in and defend her. If I see some gang member punch an old lady and steal her purse and run off, I’m not going to be a hero because that’s not worth me dying over… but I’d be a good witness, I’d go help the lady, I’d call the police, etc..

      Where you come from, it’s generally a good area. I spent my life growing up in “good parts of town”. I spent a fair part of my life not even knowing how to really throw or take a punch, let alone carry a gun. I guess my wife getting sexually assaulted long ago finally tilted my notion that crime can happen to anyone anywhere. I became more aware of it, paid more attention to it, and I can see that there is no such thing as a truly safe place; sure some places are more prone than others, but even still… the world is generally a good place filled with good people, evening news just doesn’t ever report on good people because bad people tend to make for better headlines. But I guess it’s the Boy Scout in me: Be Prepared. I never know what life may bring, I’d like to do my best for whatever life might throw my way.

  3. You’re right, if bad guys have the upper hand, how does that make the world a better place?

    Having been a practising martial artist for almost eight years now there’s a growing sense of responsibility that comes with acquiring these “skills”, that even as I have some basic advantage it’s not for me to unconscionable and unremitting in dishing it out, while at the same time holding a moral obligation to do what we can to counter evil wherever we see it.

    So, that is the quandry, at least at the reasoning level – it may all go out of the window when our loved ones are endangered and we are engaged in the fires of a battle, as often it happens.

    However from a personal perspective, I guess our conclusions are mostly based on what we’re observing and where we see the need to “balance things out”. Fair play to that, it’s seems to me I’ve been holding the other end of the same stick as you, and well, whilst gun crime is pretty much non-existent in the Borders of Scotland, it’s not too far a stretch of the imagination to see where you’re coming from. The basic dynamic is much and the same, isn’t it? Force met with more force; more force met with even more force; fists met with fists; guns met with guns.

    Certainly if there were people here parading guns and threatening harm I too would probably see the need to own one myself. However, whilst it may be true there is no such thing as a truly safe place, crime here is low, and I am grateful for that, without being mindless of the dangers there are (drunken weekend violence, road rage etc.)

    At the end of the day, peace of mind is all, we do what we can and when the proverbial hits the fan it might be enough – it might not be enough, but let’s hope that it is.

    • You hit on a key point. That as a martial artist you understand that “with great power comes great responsibility”. Carrying a gun is no different. I mean, while it may not be as classically formed as a kata, guns are still “martial”. I mean, it may not be Haidong Gumdo or Kendo or Iaidō, but it’s still working with a weapon. You have to give it the respect and responsibility it deserves.

      So to really continue the discussion, you have to set the implement aside. It’s not about your choice of tool, it’s about the situations that would require the tool, it’s about how you can handle and act in those situations that could require the tool. When it comes to gun training, unfortunately it’s not like typical martial arts training: you don’t have weekly classes, there isn’t some large curriculum to work through, and most people don’t want to engage in sparring 😉 (there are Force-on-Force, Simunitions, Airsoft, even paintball as ways to “spar” tho). The thing is, the real fun part of gun training for most people is shooting. But there is another side to the training. There’s training about awareness, avoidance, doing everything you can do to avoid using your gun, for use of the gun is (supposed to be) a last resort. The trouble is, while this sort of training is truly the best and most useful, it’s so rarely done because it’s just not as fun and blasting 1000 rounds downrange on a Saturday. I am thankful to see this is changing, but it’s a slow change because your average consumer still doesn’t get it. In fact, I even see it as a place where “self-defense” martial arts (i.e. not Tai Chi, as it tends to be taught today), could take a cue because again, it’s more fun to teach the hard skills and most people want to learn and work on the hard skills. It’d be good for them to teach avoidance, disengagement, what the OODA loop is and how to use it to your advantage, etc..

      In the end tho, you’re right: it’s about peace of mind. And yes you never know what you may be up against. It may be enough, it might not be enough. You have to be realistic about it. I mean, I’ve gotten this far in life without anything too serious happening to me. Yes there have been some issues, yes some incidents, but they were able to be avoided or ended without anything serious going on, and for that I’m thankful. I also know that if a big armed gang storms my house hell bent on destruction well… I’ll fight the good fight, but I accept the odds will be against me. So in the meantime, I will work, I will prepare, but I will also live my life because gosh… there’s more to life. 🙂

  4. Yep, I like that, the tool for the situation, makes sense to me, and…

    the hard skills…the rough stuff, this is what’s popular, MMA, boxing…there’s subtlies there, no doubt, but pretty much anyone can bang away, straight off, if they like; and there’s the getting caught up in it all, blinkered to nuances and precision of things learned more slowly, awareness, the bigger picture etc. And…

    “I will also live my life because gosh… there’s more to life.” So true.

    Just want to say, I appreciate your considered responses, there’s so much to learn, and it’s great to hear other perspectives, and to resonate also…things form in our minds, but there is always more… growth, understanding, dialoguing like tuning a radio dial…keep working at it, and the signal get’s clearer…and then the music sounds fine…

    All fun.

    • That’s what I’m after. I want to discuss, I want to learn, because I know I don’t have all the answers. Like I said, I used to not be this way, but I was willing to listen and research, look at facts, and I just can’t deny facts. So, I updated my stance on things because of the evidence presented to me. And if I’ve changed before, I can change again… someone else may have a perspective and evidence I’ve not heard before and may be well worthy of consideration.

      I don’t know where I’ll end up in life, so I’ll just do the best I can as I go along and try my best to enjoy it all. 🙂

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