On Shotguns

Like many (most? all?) people, I started out in the “shotgun for home defense” camp. For whatever reason, it’s the mantra firearm to utilize in that situation.

However, if you think beyond that towards the actual realm of application, plus if you do any actual work in that realm of application (e.g. a class like Defensive Long Gun), you start to see it’s not the best tool for the situation. For example, consider the longest shot you may have to take in a home defense situation. What if it’s something like 25 yards? Take a look at The Box O’ Truth #20 and notice the size of the spread at 20 yards: from 9″ to 17″. That’s a huge variance. Even at best, can you be sure to get all 8-9 pellets on target and not in an innocent person? Maybe, but maybe is of little comfort when the flag is flying. It’s due to that and many other factors that I’ve settled on an AR for home-defense. It’s the entirety of the platform that makes it a better fit for the context.

But for some reason I still had a desire for a shotgun.

Now, I still keep shotguns for home defense. Why? Easier manual of arms. It’s very simple for Wife or my kids to operate a shotgun, especially if something goes wrong (just keep pumping and shooting, and if all else fails it’s a club). Heck, it’s difficult for my young kids to operate that charging handle on an AR, but they can easily work the pump action on a youth 20 gauge shotgun. Some gun is better than no gun.

A few months ago it was maybe 10:00 PM. We heard a helicopter overhead, which isn’t usual because of medical helicopters. What became unusual was that the helicopter didn’t pass over but stayed in the area. We found a police scanner feed and listened in. Apparently the police were chasing someone and he hunkered down in a patch of woods close to my house. I went Code Orange. The reality was, he certainly could have run and wound up near or in my house. Slim chance? Yes. But better to be prepared and on guard.

What surprised me about my reaction to the situation? My gut response was to grab the 12 gauge, not my AR.

I’m not sure why.

On the one hand, I’ve been very handgun oriented lately and haven’t been practicing with my AR as much as I should. If I have been doing anything with a rifle, it’s been more along hunting or target shooting, not fighting. Monkey brain mode kicked in and brain reverted to “simple point and click interface” of the shotgun, not “OK, gotta figure out the holdover, blah blah”. While the logical part of my brain still buys into the AR for home defense, that night the shotgun just sung to me. In the end I didn’t have to pick anything up, eventually the police scanner provided no more information on the matter and the sounds of the helicopter faded. No idea what happened, doesn’t really matter.

Recently on the InSights Training Center mailing list, someone was asking about the SAIGA 12 for home defense. Now, these guys are big on the AR, but lead instructor Greg Hamilton gave the shotgun its due:

For general civil situations, the 7-8 shot, tube feed, pump shotgun is already more gun than is required to solve the situation. I’ve shot 1000s if not 10,000s of rounds though every type of shotgun over 25 years.  Just shoot pumps now. I have a nice 11-87 that I don’t use and I would like a saiga with a really short barrel but it would just be for fun, as I don’t know what else I would do with it.

The shotgun is still a great weapon especially if you are poor. For $250 you’ve got something that you can take on multiple opponents with, with confidence in the reliability of the gun and in the cartridge. A screw on rail to the forend, weaver ring, and $50 flashlight and your looking good. Throw some extra ammo on the gun someway cheap and for <$400 you are ready to rock. It won’t win any picture competitions on AR15.com but it will smoke a couple scumbags with extreme prejudice.

and that’s what it’s all about.

Granted, this doesn’t take away some inherent limitations of the platform (e.g. those 25 yard shots). But with a little investment of time, money, and ammo, you can do you best to figure it out. For instance, back in that BOT #20 you saw that different ammo provided different patterns. You must take the time to seek which ammo will work best in your gun. Furthermore, if your shotgun has different chokes, try them out and see what difference they make. I’ve tended to lean towards whatever gives you the tightest possible pattern, minimize spread. Furthermore, with some additional way to carry ammo on the shotgun (e.g. side-saddle), throw a few slugs in there.

And practice. Pick up some dummy rounds and practice loading, reloading, getting that one slug in there, and so on. Take classes if you can.

So on that front, I opted to run the Team Tactics course a couple of weeks ago with a shotgun. I just wanted to see.

On the one hand, it was just plain fun to do. 🙂  There’s something viscerally satisfying about BOOM rack BOOM rack BOOM. 🙂  Of course, reloads were slow, but you manage the best you can. Even with a shorter 18.5″ barrel, it’s still cumbersome to move and navigate with the shotgun: an AR with a 16″ barrel and collapsible stock is overall much shorter and easier to move around with. Shooting weak-side (e.g. around the left-side of a barrier) was difficult with the pump, but do-able… just a matter of training those motor skills.

In the end, I’ve softened my “anti-shotgun for defensive purposes” stance. In the end, it all comes down to you and your particular situation — there is no blanket answer. I do look forward to doing more work with the shotgun, classes if I can. Curious to study it more in this context.

Barnes VOR-TX

A couple of weeks ago, Barnes Bullets announced a new line of loaded ammunition called the Barnes VOR-TX. I obviously missed the announcement, and I’m quite the fan of Barnes Bullets (even a member of their Club-X). Another page on the VOR-TX here. Apparently it will be available on August 1, 2010.

While I’m starting to lean towards 6.8 SPC for hunting, I still can’t get away from .308 Win as my go-to caliber. Barnes will be offering this VOR-TX in both 150 and 168 grain TTSX (for .308 Win). That’s what intrigues me about this round: factory ammo with a 168 grain TTSX. No one offers factory ammo with a 168 TTSX; International Cartridge Co offers 150 grain TSX and TTSX, and DoubleTap Ammunition offers a 150 grain TTSX. But again, no one does 168 grain TTSX.

I’m still not doing a lot of rifle ammo reloading, so for now I still have to look to factory ammo for my hunting rounds. I’ve been using Federal’s P308H, which is a 165 grain TSX bullet and an overall fine round. Everything I’ve taken from hogs to deer to that water buffalo was taken with that round. But again, it’s a TSX bullet.

The Tipped TSX bullet (TTSX) is the evolution of the TSX. That polymer tip improves the ballistic coefficient. A .30 caliber 168 grain TSX BT (cat# 30844) is listed as having a B.C of .404  & S.D. .253 (the 165 grain TSX is B.C. .398 & S.D. .248) (source). A .30 caliber 168 grain TTSX BT (cat# 30878) is listed with a B.C. of .470 & S.D. .253 (source). That’s a nice improvement. Of course, the reality is the distances that I’ll be hunting with this? an improved B.C. won’t have a huge impact (but every bit is welcome). So what then? Well, that polymer tip greatly aids in getting the bullet to expand. Useful that.

Granted, to use the TSX vs. the TTSX isn’t a no-brainer as there are still advantages and application situations to one over the other. Nevertheless, to see the 168 grain TTSX offered in a factory load is welcome. Who knows… I may buy a box and see how it fares. Or, if I know what’s good for me, I’ll ignore all of this and get my butt to working on 6.8 SPC hunting loads instead. That .277″ 95 grain TTSX is panning out to be “the” bullet for 6.8 SPC.

I’ve got a screw loose

Yesterday I pulled out my snub revolver for some dry fire. I looked down at the right-side of the gun and noticed a screw had backed almost all the way out!

In the above image, you can see arrows pointing to two screws. These two screws help to hold on the side plate. In my case, it was the lower screw that was nearly backed out. I immediately obtained a screwdriver and ensured all three of those side screws were tight (the upper one hadn’t backed out, but wasn’t tight; the crane retainer screw was fine). No, I did not use Loctite; I reckon that’s nothing you want that close to your action internals.

Just a note for folks — especially if you carry a snub. Check your screws. Do it now while it’s fresh in your mind.

My next thought was wondering if you can get replacements of these screws, just in case. I assume you can.

ETA: I assumed correctly. I droped S&W an email and asked if you could obtain replacement screws if needed, and sure enough you can. Just drop ’em a line or give ’em a call.

ETA2: Folks have been commenting that I should use blue Loctite on the screws to keep them from backing out. While I grant the joys of Loctite, I just did not feel right about using it on those screws given their location and relative softness.

So I asked the gunsmith that did the custom work on my 442, Verne Trester. His reply:

I wouldn’t use loctite, put some fingernail polish on the head only, then if you need to remove them use nail polish remover readily available at a drug store

There you go.

Nathan Taylor at the USSA ProAm

Local competition shooter Nathan Taylor has a video of his performance at the recent USSA ProAm. For how the match works, read this.

If you read the July 2010 KR Training newsletter, you’d learn that Nathan won 1st B class in Open Amateur.

Nice shooting, Nathan! I like watching the speed of his reloads, and I also like the fact that he’s honest about his performance… where he messes up or has a problem. He doesn’t hide it. Shows that everyone makes mistakes, and just because something flubs doesn’t mean all is lost. Always keep fighting! Lots can be learned from watching that video.

Guns and Catholics

Robb posts that Louisiana Catholic Churches are banning concealed handguns.

“We don’t think it is appropriate to have guns in churches,” said Danny Loar, executive director of the Louisiana Conference of Catholic Bishops.

Hrm. Methinks someone doesn’t get it and could use a review of Catechism:

Legitimate defense can be not only a right but a grave duty for one who is responsible for the lives of others. The defense of the common good requires that an unjust aggressor be rendered unable to cause harm. For this reason, those who legitimately hold authority also have the right to use arms to repel aggressors against the civil community entrusted to their responsibility.

and

2321 The prohibition of murder does not abrogate the right to render an unjust aggressor unable to inflict harm. Legitimate defense is a grave duty for whoever is responsible for the lives of others or the common good.

Note the use of the word duty. By banning law-abiding citizens the ability to defend themselves — because no fighting on sacred ground is only honored in The Highlander — they are denying parishioners their ability to fulfill their God-given duty.

See prior posts here and here.

KR Training July 2010 Newsletter posted

The KR Training July 2010 Newsletter is now up.

There’s a ton of stuff packed in this newsletter. Worth the read.

And here’s a special offer: if you’ve taken Beyond the Basics before and want to attend this Saturday’s (July 24) BTB session, refresher student price is $40!

End of the Ring’s BlueGuns saga

Inert dummy replicas are useful teaching and training aids. To help me practice my reloads, I wanted to get some weighted magazines. Ring’s Manufacturing makes a wide variety of replicas, including weighted magazines. However, to obtain weighted magazines apparently requires a custom manufacturing run because I tried obtaining through a retailer, but that had unfortunate results.

I phoned Rings, put in an order. They were very polite, friendly, took my order, made things, shipped it… and that’s when the problems began. You can click the link to read what happened.

So I spoke with Rings, eventually the order was able to be shipped back (and they paid for that) so things could be corrected.

Then the order was returned, and things weren’t much better.

Finally this past weekend I was able to give the 3rd guy in the order his part of the order. We tried things out in his guns, they still stuck, so Karl pulled out his Dremel and files and cleaned it up. I know that was a solution to things, but IMHO there’s no reason why we should have to do that. I was willing to send things back a third time, but also I was tired of the whole thing. The 2 AR magazines? They still don’t work 100% right but I can make them work well enough for my needs, and again, I’m just tired of dealing with this fiasco.

I’m very disappointed. I cannot understand how these products could have left the factory in a non-working condition. I cannot understand how these products could have left the factory a second time in a non-working condition! And since this isn’t baseball, there’s no “three strikes”. These products were very expensive (the weighted AR mags were about $60 each, the weighted XD mags were about $27 each), and while I could understand if one or two didn’t work the first time around (ignoring the omission of the mag catch on all 6 XD-9 mags), I cannot understand how they still failed to work the second time around. All I can say is I’m disappointed. Disappointed in the manufacturing, in the quality control, in the consistency. I will say the Ring’s folks were courteous on the phone and at least attempted to do the right thing (e.g. when I requested they pay for the return shipping they didn’t argue), but courtesy with a faulty product is still a faulty product.

Will I buy from Ring’s again? I’m sorry, but hard to say. They make products that few others make, so depending upon my needs in the future I may have to. Best I can say is it’s going to be difficult for Ring’s to earn my money again, but moreso my trust. 😦

More Comp-Tac Gear – Settable Cant Holster, Beltfeed

When I did my last big Comp-Tac purchase, I obtained a full shell for my MTAC, a Two O’clock holster (both previously reviewed). The other two pieces I obtained were the Settable Cant holster and The Beltfeed. While I’ve used them at home in practice, yesterday’s Team Tactics course was the first time I used them live.

Settable Cant Holster

I don’t use OWB holsters much because my primary means of carry is concealed, so that really means an IWB holster. However, OWB is preferred for some competition (e.g. USPSA/IPSC), so I wanted to give up using the XD Gear and get something better. I like Comp-Tac so I figured I’d start with them.

I went with their Settable Cant Holster because that seemed to provide the most options: I could use it as a paddle holster or with a belt-slide. It could have the cant set vertical, or 15º back or forward, plus some degree of height adjustment. I also liked that it had a full body shield. The one downside of this holster compared to their other models (e.g. Belt Holster, Paddle Holster, Locking Paddle) is the front/sight edge of the holster is full length whereas it’s short on those other models which would allow the muzzle to clear and exit the holster a hair sooner. That’s not a huge issue to me, as wearing IWB and primarily drawing from IWB requires me to do a full pull-upwards anyways on the draw, so I don’t feel I’m losing anything and would rather not “game” my draw because my primary intent is self-defense with gaming just a fun side-activity.

I played with the cant and in the end settled on a straight vertical cant. While my IWB carry has a slight forward tilt, doing that with this OWB holster just didn’t work well for me. Having it in the vertical position felt very natural. Even tho this holster sets the gun well off the side of my body (instead of plastered against my torso like the IWB holster), I had no problems drawing or reholstering without looking… all through yesterday’s class, lots of drawing and never thought about it nor fumbled a draw or reholster. The only noticeable difference was as this was a all-Kydex holster (vs. the leather backing of the MTAC) so there was a more noticeable click/lock upon reholster. If I tugged the gun up the hold was firmer, but on a real draw I didn’t notice that firmer retention — didn’t slow me down.

I will need to do a little shaping of the Kydex with a Dremel tool. I do like the full body sweat shield, but one edge extends just enough that it can rub my thumb on the draw. Just shave off maybe 0.25″ or so, nothing major. I don’t consider this a fault of Comp-Tac, just a matter of my personal body fit.

I was a little concerned about how well the paddle would hold on my belt, especially since it had hooks spaced for 1.75″ belts and my belt is 1.5″. I noticed no problems at all. I didn’t notice any shift as I moved around (and we did lots of movement in the Team Tactics class, running, kneeling, etc..) nor on the draw. I’ve experienced some paddles be a little flakey and needing some tending to now and again, but I never had to bother with it.

I like the holster. I don’t know if I’ll use it with the belt slide, I don’t know if I’ll use a non-vertical cant. But I’m happy I bought this model so I could have the options to try it out and see what I liked. For now, I’ll keep the vertical cant and the paddle. I don’t see myself using this holster for anything but games or maybe classes where concealment draw isn’t a focus.

The Beltfeed

What a nifty thing: 4 magazine pouches all in a tight row. That’s the great thing about it, but also the bad thing about it.

If you shoot USPSA/IPSC Production, you’ll be limited to 10 rounds in your gun. Many of the course of fire will have over 30 rounds, so you’re going to need a lot of reloads. As well, many advanced-level shooting classes are going to require you to have a lot of ammo while you’re on the line, so the more you can keep your gun running the better you’ll manage the class drills. So, The Beltfeed is an excellent solution to that problem.

The Beltfeed puts 4 mag pouches very close together. You see, if you put 4 mag pouches on your belt and followed Production Class rules, the pouches must be behind your hip bone, which often means the 3rd and 4th pouches will be way behind your back and annoying and slow to get to. The Beltfeed keeps everything up front and quick and easy to get to. But in order to have them all up front and tight well… it’s all tight. The magazines are in such close proximity that you cannot get as full a grip on the magazine compared to single spaced-out pouches. It felt very strange to me at first. However, with a bit of practice you get used to it and it can work out. I will say that it feeds very naturally… you swipe your left hand back to obtain a magazine and the first one you hit you grab and use… go for the second reload, sweep your hand back, and while the 2nd pouch is lower and staggered out, you still pick it up naturally. So the flow is good, you just have to get used to the fact that the spacing is tight.

I will say, while I obtained this mag pouch for gaming, my real desire was to have it for classes, because you can never have enough loaded mags on the line. 🙂  I had no problem keeping my gun running and full of ammo. It just fed naturally, and I suspect I’ve been getting enough practice with the pouches to be used to the grip issue. I will say that I don’t feel as good about my reloads with this as when I can get a full grip, but I suspect it’s just a matter of more practice.

I like. 🙂

Sum

To me, the testimony is that I never had to think about my gear during the class yesterday. It gave me no trouble, no problems, and not even a shift in my muscle memory. That pleases me to no end. I’m quite happy with this purchase, as I have been with most all of my Comp-Tac purchases.

Team Tactics AAR

Yesterday I participated in KR Training’s first Team Tactics course.

The purpose of the course was to introduce concepts of working in a team within a civilian context, e.g. armed friends, spouses, etc..

What it really comes down to is shooting, moving, and communicating and how to coordinate those things. For instance, when communicating it should be loud, slowly, and using few but directed words. There’s a calling “verb” then a responding “noun”. For example, team member Alpha will yell “MOVE!” to tell team member Bravo to move to some location. Bravo responds with “MOVING!” and moves to the new location. Bravo will say “LOAD!” to tell Alpha to reload, Alpha responds with “LOADING!” and commences reloading and says “UP!” when he’s up and running again. Simple call and response type commands.

As well, the class incorporated some things that you just can’t do at other shooting ranges. For instance, 360º scans, movement between locations (with the pistol or long gun in your hands). The intent is considering how the real world can be and presenting skills for use in that real world situation. To further that end, while the first half of the class consisted of live-fire exercises, the second half of the class involved no use of live weaponry and only plastic dummy guns so we could do some FoF-style scenarios where the team techniques could be utilized in more realistic situations.

I opted to run the class with a pump shotgun for my long gun. Why? Because I could. 🙂  I know that an AR is the preferrable platform, but I just wanted to run a shotgun. Just something satisfying (and fun!) about racking the gun, lots of recoil, big booms, and seeing many big holes in the target. And I enjoyed the fact I used a wood-stocked shotgun… nothing tactical here! (except the 18.5″ barrel and side-saddle). I really need to do more shotgunning… it’s just so much fun!  I actually have some stuff to write on shotgunning for home defense… more later.

That class was good and I enjoyed it. While the live-fire stuff was fine, what I really liked were the scenarios because it puts you in well… it’s still an artificial environment, but there’s aspects of realism you just can’t have with cardboard targets. The unknown of what other live players will do, even in a cooperative artificial scenario, always makes for interesting “think-on-your-toes” situations.

Good stuff. I don’t want to tell too much about the class because, you just need to try it for yourself. 🙂