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Buckshot for self-defense

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Yesterday I posted how birdshot is for birds. The general maxim is, if you’re using a shotgun for self/home-defense, buckshot (generally 00) is the way to go.

I have heard some people recommend #1 buckshot as being better. For instance, arfcom, Chuck Hawks, the firearmstactical.com brief. There’s also some talk that #4 is better, like here and even Massad Ayoob.

Well, as luck would have it, just today on the InSights mailing list someone posed such a question about shotgun self-defense ammo and one of the instructors, Keven Kerkam, responded with the following:

The “standard” loadout for a self-defense shotgun is 00-buck in the tube and slugs on the side-saddle.

Use 00 or 000 buck. We have observed a direct correlation between shot size (or number of pellets) and pattern size. Unlike what many people (uneducated people) say, you want *tight* pattern. You own each pellet that goes down range, so you want everything to hit the bad guy. We have found that the new(ish) Federal LE 132 00 load produces exceptionally tight patterns in nearly all guns. There is an older LE 132 load — this ok but not great — so look for LE 132 00 with the “flight-control wad” mentioned. Ammoman.com has it, btw.

I notice that there is now a LE 133 00 load that is an 8-pellet load as opposed to the 9-pellet 132 load. That *might* (no idea till we play with it) be even tighter than the already amazingly good LE 132 00 load. For now I am only recommending the LE 132 00 though.

For slugs, I recommend a reduced-recoil variety. The Foster-style works as good as any (most common type of slug on the market). The other common type is the Brenneke, but that one is usually marked “Brenneke” and mostly comes in “max” (i.e. high-power) loads. If it just says “slug” you’re getting the Foster type. Brand doesn’t matter, just make sure it is marked reduced/low-recoil or, sometimes, they’re called “tactical” which makes it even cooler because you’re not shooting a wimpy load that way. 🙂

Between my yesterday blog posting and the #1 buck being on my mind, I thought I’d ask for their input on the matter. John Holschen wrote:

For defensive shotgun use we need:

a.      No stray pellets (each one is a liability, without any positive effect.)

b.      Sufficient depth of penetration of each pellet to reach vital organs.

Detailed Criteria

a.      I would ideally like all pellets in the “A” zone at 25 yds. More realistic is all pellets on target at 25 yds. More pellets does not enhance performance in this criteria.

b.      OO buck is the lightest pellet that will reliably reach vital human organs through clothing at a distance.

Keven’s previous recommendations take into account both of these criteria.

Besides, it’s tough finding “smaller buckshot” at retail stores and even online retailers. Most of the time you’ll only find 00 buckshot, maybe 000 if you’re lucky.

Some important things that come from this as well:

  • Use tight(er) chokes.
  • Test your patterns
    • Before you go test, figure out the ranges at which you’ll be shooting. For instance, if it’s a home-defense shotgun, figure out the maximum distance you can shoot within your house.
  • Practice, and know the capabilities of your tool and yourself.

Updated: The original instructor, Keven Kerkam, added some additional information:

Yeah. A good number of years ago I did some pattern testing with all the different buckshot loads & sizes I could find (4, 1, 0, 00, 000) from Remington, Federal, and Winchester and found that the smaller the shot, the larger the pattern. Now with some of the more expensive rounds, you would get tighter patterns with 00 than 000, but if you kept things to the same type of construction/quality, 000 would shoot tighter than 00.

Granted, this was only with one gun, but I’d be willing to bet that 90% of the guns out there would show the same overall behavior, just different scale.

Other than a tight pattern for liability reasons, you want a tight pattern for wounding. When a pattern goes beyond a certain critical size, its effectiveness will drop off dramatically. Since #1 will spread faster than 00 which spreads faster than a good “tactical” 00 like the Federal LE 132 00, your effective range with #1 is significantly less than with a load like LE 132 00.

The typical argument for the #1 loads revolves around its reduced penetration through interior structures. This has some merit and is something that each individual has to work out for themselves and their unique circumstances: whether they want something with more wounding potential or less penetration through interior structures.

Some will argue that you have 16 pellets vs. 9, but if you hit a guy in the chest with a pattern that is, say 8″ (i.e. about 7-8 yards away — shot tends to spread around 1″ per yard give or take – more for lighter/more pellets less for larger/fewer), the majority of the pellets are going into the lungs and periphery (read: not immediately fight-stopping) and you get a few into the heart. But with pellets that are only .30/40.3gr, you may not do significant (read: fight-stopping) damage to the heart. And depending on the angle, positioning of other body parts, etc. you might not even get enough penetration to reach the heart at all. I mean, you’re still going to upset him but, you might be a bit disappointed in the immediate results.

But, if say, you hit him with a tight-shooting load like the LE 132 00, where we’ve seen patterns at 4″ or even <2″ (!!!) inches at 7-ish yards, virtually all of the load will hit the heart (assuming a well-placed shot of course) and the BG will have to be a lot more motivated to continue and physics will dictate that he’s only going for a max of 10-15 seconds more because his pump is no longer running.

Also, lighter shot will not penetrate heavy clothing as effectively. A good number of years ago, a Bellevue police officer used a 12ga shotgun to defend himself against bad guy who was seated in a car and drawing a handgun. The BG was wearing a leather jacket. I don’t remember if he was using #4, #1 or #0, but it was not 00. Where the leather jacket covered the BGs hand/arm that was hit, there was little damage. Only the uncovered portions were severely damaged. The loose leather jacket sucked most of the energy out of the shot.

IMHO, pretty compelling argument to stick with 00 buckshot. And if you can, to get some of the LEO-specific 00 buckshot.

Bulletproof Carbon

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Check this. Carbon nanotubes being used to make bulletproof material.

Nanocomp Technologies, is the first in the world to make sheets of carbon nanotubes — microscopic tubes stronger than steel but lighter than plastic. The Pentagon has financed much of the Concord, N.H., firm’s work; stakes include the $500 million U.S. market for body and vehicle armor, which is currently dominated by DuPont’s Kevlar.

In April, [Nanocomp’s owner, David] Lashmore had a mechanical multicaliber gun shoot bullets at different versions of his sheet, each less than a fifth of an inch thick, at a speed of 1,400 feet per second. Four sheets were breached, but three showed no damage. Lashmore and his 35 employees were ecstatic.

[…]

Army tests show the material works as well as Kevlar. The military also hopes to replace copper wiring in planes and satellites with highly conductive nanotubes, saving millions of dollars in fuel costs.

It’s interesting. Lashmore was able to grow nanotubes large enough to make into yarn and sheets, and from there they can do whatever. Gotta wait to see where this is going to go.

Range Report – always good to learn something

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Went to the Austin Rifle Club this morning with Tom Hogel. Tom is becoming a good friend, and he’s certainly a mentor for me in the realm of shooting (and some other areas too; I learn a lot from him). It was good to have his eyes looking over my shoulder, and I always welcome his input and corrections.

So we met for breakfast (big mushroom omelette, side of grits, fresh squeeze grapefruit juice… mmmm), then headed to the range.

Working

My intention was to work on things from the Combined Skills class, Tom’s intent was to work on some 25 yard shooting. I started just warming up at about 7-10 yards and was shooting OK. Tom was watching me and he directed me over to his 25 yard setup. I was shooting for accuracy and not hitting where I was shooting. Tried Tom’s gun and was nailing it, Tom tried my gun and was also a bit high, so there’s suspect that my sights might be hitting high at longer distances. I’m not convinced that’s the case just yet (1. we should have used a benchrest to verify, but didn’t, 2. I have other issues which I’m about to detail), but I have noted it for later to check into. Watching me shoot more and me paying attention to my shooting, some things were noticed.

First thing noticed by Tom was my trigger finger was bumping into the frame of the gun, thus pushing my shots to the left. I didn’t notice it myself, but once he mentioned it I did notice. My finger is coming into the trigger guard at a downward angle with the pad of my finger touching the “top” of the trigger (where it comes out of the frame); thus, that means the side of my trigger finger gets pressed into the frame and my finger works at a downward angle. When I moved my finger pad to tough the end of the trigger, all was better. Tom suspected it might be subconscious… my fingers are hurting from the past weekend, I’ve got a rubbed raw spot on my right middle finger (where it comes up under the trigger guard), so my body might be trying to avoid it. I suspect not. I suspect it’s just an unconscious shifting of my hands or a poor grip from the get go. I’ll have to watch for this and do a lot of dry fire to try to get the proper trigger finger back.

Second thing was uneven hand pressure. I’ve noticed this lately. I’ve been working hard on that “Todd Jarrett kung fu grip” where you “grip 20% harder”, and there’s no question it helps with recoil management. But what happened was I was putting a majority of my grip into the left hand. It was an effort to put more into my pinky area, to counter the arc the gun takes when it recoils. While it worked well for recoil management, the trouble was I noticed it turned my grip into a Weaver-esque “push-pull” sort of tension. That’s not what you want. What you want is a neutral grip (read Brian Enos‘s book). I had noticed this in the past some weeks, it was alluded to during the Combined Skills weekend, and Tom mentioned it again. So today I worked on that a bit, adjusting my grip (along with the trigger finger), and lo… shooting improved.

Another thing that came from this. I’ve been having problems where I’m shooting and next thing I know my magazine drops free. Not good. I’ve been trying to determine why this is happening. Is it something I’m doing? bad magazine? faulty magazine catch? I’m not sure, and honestly I’m still not 100% sure of the problem, but I suspect it’s me. While shooting today (i.e. being aware of trying to look for the problem), I noticed that upon recoil my left index finger is wrapped around such that it contacts the magazine release on the right side of the gun. Is that what’s happening? I don’t know, but it’s highly suspect. No mags dropped free today, but feeling where my fingers shifted during recoil I can’t help but wonder.

Playing

After having shot a bit, Tom pulled out his .44 magnum revolver. Big gun, heavy. Slick trigger on it. I shot some target loads and they were no big deal. Shot one powerful CorBon load… ooh, that kicks. It wasn’t too bad, to be honest. The main thing it did was fuel my desire for a big revolver. 🙂

Also, every time I shoot one of Tom’s XD-45’s (all Springer Precision customized) I want to get my XD-9 5″ customized.

As well, picking up all of that .45 ACP brass… yeah, I want a gun in .45 ACP. 1911… mmmm….

Got to finally try out the SureFire Shottimer iPhone app. It works but… being under the tin roof of the range, I think there was just too much noise/concussion for the microphone to pick up everything. If a shot went fast enough it could miss a follow-up shot. I played around with the settings some and couldn’t get it quite right. I’ll keep playing with it tho. It’s free so why not.

Summary

So what did I learn:

  • Need to be aware of trigger finger bumping into the frame
  • Need to even out my grip pressure – neutral pressure.
  • Keep watching my grip, if it’s causing the right-side mag release to hit.
  • .44 Mag is fun
  • I want lots and lots of money to buy more guns and customize them too. 😉
  • Tom’s a lot of fun to hang out with.

A good start to the weekend, I’d say.

Greedy much?

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Don’t get me wrong. I think money is just fine. If you can amass a giant mountain of it and sit atop it, more power to you.

But this is ridiculous.

#1 – some things come and go, but the music industry refuses to evolve, which might include parts of it are to die off.

#2 – they refuse to let market forces do what they do

#3 – their ideas are so bad they know they can’t sell anyone on them, so they turn to Congress to line pockets, call in favors, scratch backs, and get laws passed to stave off death and evolution as much as possible. Can’t get your way? Use the force of law. Bad idea.

#4 – To force payment for the 30 seconds? Fine. The solution is simple: Apple (and other retailers) stop offering the 30 second snippets. See what that does for your revenue stream.

The music industry is having a tough time only because the model is changing. Better is to go with the flow than to try to stem the tide… the rush of the water is too powerful.

Sometimes calling the police is the better answer.

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An 85-year old man here in Austin was just arrested for firing upon city (contract) workers.

Apparently the workers were doing some tree trimming, this man thought they were trespassing, and fired 5 shots at them (claimed 3 were warning shots).

  1. Regardless of legality, trespassing is not enough reason to use deadly force.
  2. If you have to shoot, it’s because your life (or perhaps someone else’s) is in danger.
  3. If someone’s life is in danger and thus you have to shoot, warning shots are not what you fire.

This was irresponsible gun handling and irresponsible situation handling. Armchair quarterbacking this, if you didn’t want to confront the individuals, calling the police to have them look into it would have been the better thing to do.

Birdshot is for birds

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Birdshot is for birds, not for self-defense.

Via Joe we have a story of a guy getting shot in the chest with what is believed to be birdshot. The guy chases the shooter for a bit, then decides he needs to stop and get himself to the hospital. If he can get shot in the chest (likely at close range given the nature of the story), run for a while, then make the conscious decision to get himself to the hospital… I think the only thing the birdshot was effective at was giving him a medical bill and a bad evening (and couple weeks while he heals up).

Buckshot. Buckshot. Buckshot. I just don’t understand why people continue to promote birdshot for anything other than shooting birds.

Updated: Some compelling data and information about buckshot.

NRA Country

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NRA Country. The NRA and country music joining together.

I really don’t care for country music. There’s some good stuff for sure, but on the whole it’s not my cup of tea.

But I did like this from the website:

Chores aren’t subject to negotiation. The fish don’t bite at noon. Never talk back to mom before dinner. Keep your friends and keep your word. Know what’s worth fighting for. Be proud of where you’re from. And, in life and in the field, always shoot straight.

I’d modify that to say “never talk back to mom” period. I guess it’s fine as-is tho, since once you finish with today’s dinner, it will officially start the period before tomorrow’s dinner. 🙂