You’d think he could do some research…

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University of Texas System Chancellor Francisco Cigarroa is worried that the proposed legislation to allow concealed carry on campus could make schools unsafe.

Hrm. What is Mr. Cigarroa basing this upon? Facts? Data? Supporting evidence?

No.

Chicken Little.

Cigarroa says parents, faculty and campus law enforcement agencies have expressed concern that the law could lead to an increase in campus violence.

Geez. You’d think being the head of a University that he might have access to scholarly research and data, history, and might even know something about basing decisions on facts.

5 thoughts on “You’d think he could do some research…”

  1. Does the bill include law suit protection against universities if someone gets shot by a CHL holder legally carrying? Because fear of a law suit seems to drive most college admin decision making.

    I ran the idea of getting a special dispensation from ACU to carry if I came back by a campus cop, and he said it wouldn’t fly because they’d fear a lawsuit is something happen. And since ACU is a private school, they won’t have to allow it even if the law passes.

    • Take a read of SB 354’s text yourself:

      http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/82R/billtext/html/SB00354I.htm

      best way to get all the details.

      A lot of details are still being hammered out, like if say a private institution opted to deny, how must they do it? For instance, post 30.06 signs at every campus entrance, every door to every building, every everything? How would they give notice because we have to know else how can we honor their request? So… much to still get hammered out.

  2. Looking at the law today, it seems private school “campuses” aren’t exempted by default, but then section 1(e) allows them to be after they’ve consulted with . It says they can make rules “after consulting with students, staff, and faculty of the institution” that limit carry “on premises that are owned or operated by the institution”. Premises isn’t the same as campus. “”Premises” means a building or a portion of a building. The term does not include any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other
    parking area.”

    So if you wanted to go for a walk at UT, or ACU – a private university, or park your car there, they couldn’t stop you. It is the same location that currently makes you break the law. And it is a defense if you weren’t given “effective notice under Section 30.06”

    They are given the same liability protection as the state etc, including CHL instructors.

      • OK, looking closer this morning 40.03 is the list of places you are prohibited from carrying even without a sign. 40.035 is the list of places where you can’t carry if they post the sign.

        Schools are in 40.03, and that says “on the physical premises of a school or educational institution, any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by a school or educational institution is being conducted, or a passenger transportation vehicle of a school or educational institution, whether the school or educational institution is public or private, unless pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the institution”

        So “grounds” are included as of now separate from “premises” – which is defined in .035 – for educational institutions.

        I emphasized the last line because it gives a school the option to authorize it if they want. They could make a written regulation allow anyone to carry, or give specific people permission to carry. But without liability coverage most schools won’t.

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