I spent October 23-24, 2010 with Tom Givens of Rangemaster taking his Combative Pistol 2 course, hosted at KR Training. While my general AAR is here, there were some things that came up in class that I wanted to speak about in greater detail. What follows is inspired by something Tom said or we did in class, but is ultimately my take on things and how thoughts gelled in my head. I would encourage you to train with Tom Givens, if you ever have the chance. Reading my blather is no substitute.
3 Shots, 3 Feet, 3 Seconds
The phrase goes something like that, that on average a gunfight is 3 shots, within 3 feet, and lasts 3 seconds.
Is there truth to that? To a degree, and of course it makes for a catchy mantra.
But here’s the problem with that.
It’s an average.
If I have two incidents, one with 1 shot, one with 5 shots, that averages out to 3. Another two incidents, one with 0 shots and one with 6, that averages to 3. If I have three incidents, 1, 4, 4, that averages to 3. You get the idea. Three may be the average, but that doesn’t mean it will be what it will be.
I touched on this in my previous article, “Jenny’s Got a Gun“. She read a web comment saying:
who really needs a 20-round magazine when you’re defending against a stalker? “Six or seven bullets will do you just fine”
She should have Googled further to see if 6 or 7 would be just fine (answer: maybe, but it’s your life… play with it as you wish. I carry 15+1 and a spare mag).
Tom Givens recounted to us a story of a man in prison. He had nothing better to do with his day and had access to a law library. So he worked up a case to sue the police claiming they used excessive force against him.
Why?
Because they shot him 62 times (I believe that was the number).
Let that sink in a moment. Because you see, that he was working up a counter lawsuit? That means he got shot 62 times and lived. Apparently gunfire from both handguns and rifles.
Yeah.. those 6 or 7 bullets may not be just fine. The human body is pretty resilient, and your pistol rounds suck. Of course, 62 times also means he wasn’t shot in any vital area, but that’s another topic. (BTW, his case was thrown out because protocol is to keep shooting until the threat stopped… on shot 62 he stopped, the police stopped, case thrown out).
Another story from Givens. One of his students was sitting in a chair on the lawn with his mother, little children playing in the yard around him. Some teenage boy came up, student told the boy to leave. Boy leaves, goes home, retrieves a gun and starts shooting it across the street at them. Student gets up, moves behind cover (car), returns fire and hits the dude in the chest ending the confrontation.
It was a 22 yard shot.
The student recounted that he never thought that he was the statistical anomaly, just that he had to take care of business.
Another story of a husband getting attacked in the driveway of his home. Wife retrieves the gun, goes to the second story window of their house and shoots the attacker from 15 yards away.
Go measure your house. Pace off various distances within your home. I bet some of those are beyond average (be it 3 feet, or the 0-5 yards often quoted for self-defense shooting). Now picture your spouse or child being held across that room. Make that shot, you have only one shot, one chance.
Averages tell us something and we can certainly learn from them and should not ignore them. But we must keep in mind they are averages and that means there are some on one side of the average, some on the other, and some at the extremes. Don’t get caught in training just to the averages.
The rule of averages certainly rings true, but you still need to train to be outside the norm.
We were taught in the Academy that most gunfights happen in conversation distances, which would be right at about 3-4 feet.
I will also say, in all of the practical scenarios I did in the Academy where I had to shoot, all happened at greater than 3 feet and I fired a lot more than 3 rounds. I normally had to fired anywhere from 4-7 rounds before I deemed the target no longer a threat. Then again, those sim rounds aren’t as accurate as real bullets. Engagement distances were normally in the realm of 10 feet to 20 yards.
Conversation distance is the key… no one is going to yell across a parking lot for you to hand over your wallet.
But you demonstrate the key point: averages are good, we shouldn’t ignore them as they do point out realities. But averages are just that middle of the bell curve… that you went out to 20 yards in sims shows that yeah, it can and does happen so we need to be as savvy as possible in all situations possible.
On a related note, in this past weekend’s classes we had a lot of people shooting with small guns, like Kahr’s and the like. Sure we gave them a little hell about it, in fun (one guy was shooting so-so, we gave him our XD’s to try shooting and he was ringing the bell no problem… the gun was his limiting factor). He asked me if the gun was good for carry and my response? It depends. Everyone is different and you have to find what works for you and your situations. A Kahr as a primary? Wouldn’t work for me, but if it works for him, great. The thing is, you just have to know the abilities and limits of your hardware and you. So can the gun shoot accurately out to 25 yards? A lot of those tiny guns won’t do jack past 15 yards… does tha tmean the gun is bad? No, just that you need to know those limits… try the gun out at 25 yards from a benchrest and see how it does. If you know the hardware can do it, then the question becomes if YOU can then do it with that hardware. If not, there’s something to practice.