Boy, so many things from this past weekend are just coming back. It’s wonderful!
KR Training’s AT-1A class is good because, as I said before, we spend all this time teaching you how to use your gun and use it well, then we throw something at you where using your gun may not be the right thing to do.
tgace’s tactical preschool 45 is titled “What’s Your Hurry?” He goes on to discuss the thought process you must have about “clearing a building”:
Going into a building after an armed and barricaded man or clearing your home in the middle of the night is probably the most dangerous thing you could ever do. You need to seriously consider the necessity of attempting it before you do it. Ask yourself, is there really a need to “go in”? Is someone in danger?
If you know someone is inside a building, armed, alone, and not ready to surrender, what is the hurry? Why would you need to “go dynamic” and risk getting shot? Perhaps there IS a reason, but you really need to figure out what that reason is first and be able to articulate it. If you go in and get yourself or someone else killed, what will your explanation be for your decision? If you and your wife are in your bedroom and you hear someone in the house (you KNOW someone is in the house and there is nobody else living in the house with you), what possible reason is there to go out looking? Arm yourself, call 911 and bunker down. It may even be a good idea to announce what you have done quite loudly. ..the fact that you are armed and have called the cops that is.
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My thing is Special Forces members spend 1000’s of hours training in killing houses learning how to clear rooms.
Some random dude with a clean record and 2 pcs of ID can go to a gun shop and buy a weapon, yet in the Army they don’t give you a weapon without extensive safety training. If their is an intruder in your house call 911 and leave it in the hands of a pro, there is a better chance you will end up shoot your wife in the face then a robber
But i do admire the fact that you offer a training program i just wish it was mandatory
Mandatory is a tough thing.
Should education be mandatory? If so, then where do you draw the line? Both in terms of what things we require people to learn, and then how much of it is deemed adequate. Of course then you have to decide who determines the curriculum.
This doesn’t have to apply to just firearms. How about driving? How about financial matters? And how much of a free society do we have if we mandate and force things upon people?
People that don’t want to learn won’t. People that want to learn will. Mandating education isn’t going to help those that don’t give a shit, and those that want the education will seek it out anyway so don’t encumber the process.
I do understand your sentiment. Right now my thinking is the best we can do is have good schools that teach the right things and produce good students. Spread good and solid knowledge as much as we can, freely share that information. Work to dispel rumor and bad ideas. Have open and honest discussion, don’t hide things. Create resources to help people find training. Get young people involved in shooting activities that teach them “right” from the start (e.g. 4-H, Scouting, etc.). And help people see the value in education… that this is no different from education in any other facet of life.
Generally speaking I agree with you, but not all situations are so cut and dry. If your child’s room was down the hall and they were (potentially) in danger, that changes the scenario.
Just because you have a gun, that doesn’t ward off evil, that doesn’t make bad things not happen, and it is not the answer to every question. This is why I think it’s good for people to get training, and training well beyond just “how to shoot”. And part of that training should help you come to realize that if it isn’t worth dying over, it’s likely not worth “going in” for. So yeah, arm yourself, hunker down, dial 911.
Thanks for the link love.
Where knowing the “room clearing basics” does come into play is when you get that “something just made a noise in kitchen” wake-up in the middle of the night. Is it a burglar? Did a plate simply fall off the counter? Was junior raiding the fridge?
Do you rack the 12 ga. and dial 911? Probably not. The trick is trying to use a little common sense.
Or you teach Junior how to be proper about things so Dad doesn’t come out with the 12 gauge. 🙂
My problem is that guns were designed for one purpose, to kill. and they do a very good job at that. to me if you own a gun, you do so for purpose of killing whether it is for defense or not. I am glad there are people who are teaching these safety measures, not only the mechanical but the mental aspects which i think is the more important part. Even in a pair of experienced hand, guns are dangerous to family and its home. But it look like this program cover many elements, that most firearms safety courses don’t offer. and the point that if someone is going to own a gun they should have these skills i am 100% behind you.
People own guns for a variety of reasons.
Some people just collect. Some people like to target shoot and only pieces of paper are injured. Some shooters compete in the Olympics. Shooting isn’t just about killing, tho yes, you can kill by shooting.
I do think it’s best if people have solid training. That doesn’t stop accidents 100% (we’re human, we’re not perfect), but it sure helps. But again to require education? That’s a slippery slope. I highly recommend education, I firmly believe that the more you know the better off you are in the world no matter what realm we’re talking about. But I think making education a requirement branches into a far more dangerous realm than any gun itself could be.