Shopping List for a Hornady Lock-n-Load AP

I wanted a progressive reloading press. There are many out there, but it seems the big 3 contenders are Dillon Precision, Lee, and Hornady. After much research, including hands-on use of a Dillon 650 and a Hornady Lock-n-Load, I decided to get a Lock-n-Load. The Dillon was certainly a solid machine and there’s a big aftermarket for it too. As well, the different Dillon presses have different applicability (see Brian’s Enos’ FAQ on the topic). But for my needs as a general reloader that wants to reload metallic cartridges, both rifle and pistol (mostly pistol) in volume, across various calibers, the Hornady Lock-n-Load AP seemed to fit my needs best. It also felt like a “Dillon 650 version 2.0” sort of thing, where they saw what was good and kept it and what was bad and improved upon it. There were just little things with the Dillon that bugged me (e.g. those little pins that retain the cases in the shell plate), and the LnL seemed to address those (retainer spring).

Trouble is, Hornady’s literature wasn’t too good at telling me what came in the box and what I needed to buy. foo.c was helpful in making my shopping list, but it seems Hornady changed what comes in the box! I obtained a “new” LnL, with the EZject™ system (foo.c’s is the prior generation). I don’t know everything that changed, but one thing for sure that changed was before the press only came with a powder drop rotor/assembly for rifle; now it has both a rifle and a pistol drop. That’s nice.

It also came with 1 large primer pickup tube and 1 small primer pickup tube. I didn’t know if it came with those or not so I picked up a few via MidwayUSA. So you don’t need to buy any more pickup tubes, but there’s no harm. Karl had lots of pre-loaded tubes at his bench, and there was something handy about that. I believe he said he’ll load tubes while watching TV. That can help your workflow when you’re loading… run out of primers, drop another tube in instead of having to pick up another 100 primers.

The die bushings. The press comes with 5, which is enough to get you started and certainly you can get by with that. However, the purpose of the bushing system is so you can permanently mount a die within the bushing and then caliber conversions are quick. So when you calculate how many bushings to buy, just note that 5 already come in the box. How many you actually end up needing all depends what you’re going to put into the bushings (and the powder drop will need its own bushing).

Of course, dies are separate but I already had those. My RCBS dies work just fine. I did pick up a powder cop die.

As well, you must buy the right shell plates for the cartridges you wish to load.

To get maximum use out of the 5 stations, instead of having one station for the powder drop and one station for the mouth expander, foo.c told me about Powder Funnels PTX, which is a powder through expander bushing for the LnL press’s case-activated powder drop. Things I’ve read are that the Hornady powder-through-expanders are OK but a bit of a pain. Supposedly this guy created his own, with the added benefit that it’s universal. I haven’t tried the Hornady versions (supposedly it’s the setup that’s the pain), but setting up the PTX was pretty simple and that it’s universal is quite nice. Seems to do the job just fine.

foo.c told me to get a 1/8″ dowel to use with the primer feed. It provides a little downward pressure to help feeding, plus you can put a mark or flag on it to let you know when you’re out of primers. I didn’t need the dowel as the LnL came with a little plastic rod just for this purpose. I will say, Karl’s Dillon 650 had a little buzzer gizmo that would sound when you ran out of primers; I like that because it’s one less thing you have to keep your eyes on so instead you can keep your eyes on more important things like powder level.

You’ll also need some little things, like mounting hardware. To mount the press on your bench you’ll of course need a bench, a way to drill 2 5/16″ holes, then hardware to mount it. My bench table is about 1.5″ thick and I found 3″ bolts worked just fine. So, 2 bolts, 2 nuts, 6 flat washers, 2 lock washers, all was good. Hornady doesn’t provide these as they can’t predict what your mounting needs will be, but it’s a simple trip to the hardware store. You might actually want to swap 2 of the flat washers for 2 fender washers and use the fenders on the underside of the bench to give a little more surface area.

And if you want, you can buy extras. For instance, the powder measures are the standard measures, but you can sink the money for the micrometer inserts. Since part of the joy of the die bushing setup is quick changes, you could look at buying multiple micrometer inserts and even other parts of the powder drop (or a whole new powder drop) to facilitate the powder portion of a caliber changeover. I’m sure there are other gizmos and doohickies out there you can buy to trick out your press.

Anyway, that’s about the basics: the press itself, shell plates, dies (including any special ones like a powder level/cop). Likely you’ll want more die bushings. Maybe a powder-through-expander, if that suits what you’re loading. Mounting hardware. Most of what you need will be in the press package.

10 thoughts on “Shopping List for a Hornady Lock-n-Load AP

  1. I was under the impression that the Hornady LnL used those nifty primer stripper clips, not gravity fed tubes like the Dillon… or is that on the RCBS? My biggest gripe with the Dillon is the haphazard way the gravity tube primer feed mechanism works. On my 550B the only way to tell that a primer has actually been seated is by “feel” or by checking it as it falls out the other end AFTER youve already dropped powder in it and seated a bullet (which is too slow anyway). I understand that on the 650 and 1050 theres a possible “powder check” station, but to my knowledge theres no such beast as a “primer check” on a manual progressive press.

    Consequently out of every 100 rounds or so, at least 2-3 will have either no primer or the primer will be flipped. As far as I can tell, theres no good way to prevent that apart from manually/visually checking the case after seating each one, which IMNSHO is unacceptably slow.

    You know, if enough of us shooters pooled our resources, we might be able to work out purchasing an Ammoload or Camdex automated commercial reloader. Something like an ammo reloading co-op that would not sell ammo at retail, but only sell reloaded ammo to co-op members based on their supplied components and thus avoid the evil 11% FAET. The liability insurance issues might make that difficult/not feasible though.

    • I think it’s RCBS that uses the strippers.

      The primer situation is one reason I liked the LnL. When I tried Karl’s 650 I kept smashing and screwing up primers left and right. It was quite a pain to deal with that. On the LnL it’s been a joy to feed primers. Not a single problem due to the press. Any primer-related problems I’ve had have been due to say the case being a little finiky so I had to push harder or some such like that.

      A reloading co-op. That is an interesting idea.

      You know, you really need to roll the ball on these ideas. Reloading co-op. A more “true to life” shooting competition. You’ve got some great ideas here.

  2. Nice setup you’ve got there. I’m still using an old Rock Chucker that I’ve had since ’85 or ’86.

    • Thank you.

      I’ve got a single-stage Rock Chucker too… it’s what I started with. It’s just too slow for me to produce handgun ammo in mass quantities. But there’s the trade-off… it’ll be faster, but quality and precision may not be there quite the same. As I work on my .223 hunting loads, I’ll still be using the Rock Chucker for that.

  3. Thanks for the info, I have a LNL AP on its way and wanted to know what came in the box. It is very much appreciated.

    • You’re welcome. It seems Hornady continues to improve and evolve the product, which is good! But I do think they should update their literature so you clearly know what is and isn’t in the box so you end up purchasing all the correct extras and don’t buy things you don’t need.

      Good luck and enjoy the press!

  4. Are you still digging the LnL? I’m looking to buy a press soon and it seems that everyone is hot on the Dillion XL 650.

    • Funny you should mention this.

      Just the other day I was pulling the lever and thought to myself “gosh, should I have bought the Dillon 650?”

      I am overall happy with it, and there are certainly some things about the LnL that I prefer over my Dillon experience (thus why I bought the LnL). But the big thing about the Dillon is that it’s THE standard. There’s massive aftermarket, lots of support for it. But the Hornady is growing.. and I dunno… maybe all these years as a Mac guy stuck in a PC world, the Hornady feels a little “Mac” to me and I have a soft spot for it. 🙂

      The LnL has churned out a LOT of ammo for me, and it’s been good quality (even Tom & Karl @ KR were complementary on the performance of my 9mm loads), good consistency.

      If you haven’t, read this:

      Click to access dillonLeeHornadyComparison.pdf

      It’s one of the best write ups comparing the 3 big progressive presses from Hornady, Dillon, and Lee.

      Yeah, sometimes I wonder if I should have bought the Dillon, and I figure if someday I ever get truly serious about churning out ammo by the ton, I’d certainly get a 1050. Or if I wanted to set up a machine to be dedicated for one caliber, I might buy a Dillon. But for now for my needs and purposes, the LnL seems to turn out quality ammo and has been affordable.

      • I have watched a number of video from ultimatereloader.com who seemed to be LnL bias for a while. The lNl system looks fast for caliber changes compared to the Dillion system. I did some reading on Brian Enos forums but like I said before everyone seems to be all about the Dillion presses.

        I’m heading to Karls tonight for a little reloading class he is putting on so I will hopefully to a better idea of how the Dillion presses work.

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