I cannot stand modern “self-defense” tactics that teach things like just being passive, just give them what they want, if you just do what they ask you they won’t hurt you, blah blah blah.
Before she died, Butz talked to a neighbor, Albert Barrientes, saying of the attacker: “He told us if we did what he asked us to do, he wouldn’t hurt us. He lied, he lied.”
If someone has put you in honest fear of your life, if they have broken into your house, attacked you, threatened you with grevious harm, or anything of this ilk, that person has demonstrated they are irrational, dangerous, and untrustworthy. What makes you think they won’t harm you further? Why should you trust anything they have to say after the actions they’ve already presented?
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I agree with all this, however…it can be very different when yr in the situation. The first time I was mugged there was a second when I could’ve done something, but I didn’t, and the mugging happened. But I had never been in that situation before. The second time, I was prepared and so I ran. I think it good to work out what you do in such a situation, but usually people don’t think about that until after the “first time.”
I don’t know, but I’m guessing that neither of these women had been in a similar a situation before. Also, they were waking up, which is also going to keep you from thinking clearly.
I think we need to cut them some slack. And yes, use as an example of why it can be important to fight back. It’s also important to understand that’s a risk; they could just kill you straight out. This was true in my case; I ran from muggers with guns. I could’ve been killed.
I do wish these women had fought back earlier; they waited too long. And there were two of them, but I assume they thought they could just get through it. I’ve heard that exact same thing from other rape victims. I’m sure being stabbed keeps you from thinking clearly too. But it went on a shockingly long time, and frankly, even if I was told to keep quiet, I wouldn’t be able to while undergoing such pain.
The survivor is going to be thinking some variation of “if only” for years to come; maybe every day of her life.
You raise a good many points. I think your key point is to figure out your plan BEFORE it happens the first time. Granted we can’t predict everything, but what we can we should try. Visualization is very helpful:
https://hsoiblog.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/visualization-for-self-defense/
Thank you for sharing.