No 300 BLK from Savage Arms

I just saw this posted to Savage Arms’ Facebook page

300 AAC Blackout Chambering Cancelled:

Some time ago, Savage announced it would be chambering the Model 10 Precision Carbine in 300 AAC Blackout. Since that time, we have tested many variants of this cartridge in various barrel lengths and rates of twist. This exhaustive testing left us quite unsatisfied with the accuracy we were able to get from the subsonic loads in this chambering. Accuracy with the lighter, faster loads in this caliber was actually quite good. But we believe the real value in this cartridge lies in the use of subsonic loads for suppressed rifles. Therefore we have decided to scrap the project.

It is our understanding that pushing these heavy, slow bullets presents challenges not found in typical loadings and that our experience is not unique. Subsequently, many in the industry have simply adopted a lower standard for accuracy for these subsonic loads. While this does seem reasonable and we don’t criticize any in our industry that have taken this approach, it just won’t work for Savage.

Our brand was built on accuracy and we are too protective of our reputation for building the most accurate factory rifles available. We would rather walk away from this opportunity than sell a product that requires an explanation.

Very interesting.

Now that it’s no longer prohibited in Texas to hunt game animals with suppressed firearms, that gave me more reason to consider buying a suppressor and a rifle to go with it. So naturally I was looking at 300 BLK. It’d be great if I could use subsonic ammo and a can and have a very quiet hunting experience. This is not only nice for deer hunting, but how about hunting hogs at night so you don’t bother sleeping neighbors?

But before any of this matters… what about terminal ballistics? Will it be effective enough?

Bill Wilson wrote this:

300BLK subsonic is useless on hogs, the only subsonic cartridge/load I have found to work is the Ruger 77/44 .44 Mag with a 300gr XTP

And I know that’s what Gerald and Randy at Night Hogs use (the Ruger). But then, more Google searching turns up people hunting with the 300 BLK and having success. So I don’t know. And of course, hogs and whitetail are different… a deer is tough, but not as tough as a hog, so maybe if it doesn’t work for hogs that’s fine if it can still work for deer or other thin-skinned game.

But gee… I’d really love to hear more specifics about what they were seeing for accuracy issues in the subsonic loads, because all that quiet doesn’t mean much if you can’t hit what you need to hit.

All I can say at this point is, this gives me pause.

 

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2 thoughts on “No 300 BLK from Savage Arms”

  1. Makes me wonder what twist they’ve been using in their barrels. The Army Marksmanship Unit fielded .300 BLK chambered rifles at the USPSA Multigun Nationals this year. They were running 1 in 14 twist, which is an odd choice – but they found that the rifle got more and more accurate the slower the twist they put on the gun. Granted, they were running supersonic loads, but one would imagine that as the loads approach pistol ballistics (200gr at 900-something fps), a pistol like twist would be in order?

    But, yeah, subsonic .300 BLK doesn’t sound like the load I’d be choosing for hog. I mean, it’s got less punch than a .45, at that rate ;) If you have a can on it, why not supersonic? Sure, it’s not silent, but you don’t really need silent, do you? :)

    1. Well, they even said they were getting good accuracy from supersonic… but a lot of the point of the load is to run subsonic so…. I did ask for more detailed info, but I reckon they won’t be willing to elaborate.

      I don’t need silent for the hog itself, tho less noise and a DRT shot COULD do less to alert/spook the sounder. It’s more about being polite to neighbors when you’re shooting at 2 AM… plus not getting the local game warden and sheriff out of bed to investigate a non-issue (tho I’d probably call them first anyways to let them know).

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